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Mike Roberts's avatar

In answer to your last question, my guess is that there is zero chance of avoiding a hard reckoning with biophysical reality. Humans can't avoid reality. It's impossible. However, there is a hypothetical chance of humans choosing to ease the way down. I don't think that chance is much above zero.

Mark Bevis's avatar

Great stuff as ever from Bill.

I always like to add this paper, the only one written by an economist that comes close to reality:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016328719303507

In which he cites the data that as CO2 increases, cognitive ability decreases:

a 15% reduction at 950ppm CO2

a 50% reduction at 1400ppm CO2

The offices, aeroplanes and other enclosed spaces where our leaders make decisions often reach 2500ppm....

and Paul Chefurka's work, which shows that a sustainable human population is (or rather was) ~35 million worldwide:

http://paulchefurka.ca/Sustainability.html

This is the reality that even many collapse aware people overlook - whatever comes next, is not going to include 8 billion people. Not even a billion. I would argue that since we have degraded the planet so much (97% of the surface according to the UN) the future population of humans will fall to 3-4 million (if it doesn't fall to zero that is) before it might grow again.

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